jordanz · Jul 16, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32

I'm a tenth level Warrior\Elementalist who just made it to Yak Territory with those pesky little dwarves. Here's the Dilemma. These dudes are popping me silly with damage and I get the feeling my armor is lame for my level. I bought some Ascalon armor (def 50) Cuirass, boots, leggings, but have a Gladiators gauntlets and helmet, with the same Armor rating. Is it a problem that I'm using a mixed set?

...Or Is it that I'm not using some of the defense runes? Can't afford those yet....

Age · Jul 16, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Your armour is not lame as most of the stone summit around there use a lower AL(armour level) rating than yourself.The armour you bought in Ascalon is perfectly fine as well as the gauntlets and helmet being AL 50.It would be best to have the same insignia on them though and get a vigor rune.You need to just hone on your skills more by switching targets tabing through them.

This is what most people believe which is a cop out to getting maxed armour in Droks as it will do nothing to improve your skill lvl not just what is on your bar but how you play Warrior and what build you are using.The lvl 22 stone summit down by Droks have 38 al and those are the warriors.You just need to look at the AL rating on the armour you pick up to see what it is for the most part your armour is fine to get you even to Droks through ascending not getting a run.Playing Warrior isn't as easy as everyone says it is.In essence it is not your armour.

bart · Jul 16, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

i think u can buy better armor at Yak's Bend right?

Age · Jul 16, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

It is the same Al as Ascalon and even LA all are 50 for Warriors.

Warrior ArmourClick it.

HawkofStorms · Jul 16, 2007, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Yeah, you have plenty of armor. Just remember to use henchman and have a full party of six party members in Yak's.
Also, keep in mind that frenzy makes you take double damage.

fujin · Jul 16, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43

I`m not sure whether you can get these skills while you`re still there, but you could use defensive stances or armor/HP boosting skills. I personally like skills such as Watch Yourself, and Defensive Stance, although you get that skill much later in game. Bonetti`s Defense is a good stance, although the Adrenaline cost is high. You`re only 2 missions away from reaching the outpost with the skill quest.

HKSdivision · Jul 16, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Your armor level is fine, I remember when I first started I bought the Gladiator's set and used to till I got to LA.

You probably have "The Road to Borlis Pass" quest activated so it spawns a lot more Stone Summit too. Before you are about to engage a mob, flag your henchies back then pull only a few of the enemies so that lessens the load on you and it shouldn't be too tough.

Also, if your skill bar is full of attack skills then you should change it up and take some defensive skills like "Watch Yourself!" and whatever else you have.

Kook~NBK~ · Jul 16, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55

If you get "Empathy" put on you, stop attacking. (You're just beating yourself up if you don't) Use that time to do some self-healing or something.

It's a good idea to only take one quest at a time from Yak's bend. You can abandon the extras in town and pick them up again later. There's more back and forth running around to do, but you're chances of sucess will be much better with the lower mob population.

jordanz · Jul 16, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Yep, thanks guys, you nailed it. I get to a point in Borliss pass where I am just mobbed. Still trying to learn how to rein in these henchmen....

Coridan · Jul 16, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

use your flags (under the minimap) set the henchman back...not to far but far enough they won't aggro another group....get yourself a longbow... go in by your self and draw "shoot at" one of the groups....run back to your henchies.....clean em out....then repeat. Learning proper control of henchman/hero's isn't a necessity but it reallllly helps.

Lonesamurai · Jul 16, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

also remember, your now in a six man area aswell

fujin · Jul 16, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Aggro control is a must learn IMO... I see many people who think they`re invincible charge into a large mob.

Seissor · Jul 16, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

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Originally Posted by fujin

Aggro control is a must learn IMO... I see many people who think they`re invincible charge into a large mob.

Thats a ficticious statement. You and I both know warriors stay still and it is the world around them that moves, it was the enemy mob that charged them, not the other way around.

Ok...so maybe its not warriors in hyperdrive...but maybe someday.

fujin · Jul 16, 2007, 11:40 AM // 11:40

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Originally Posted by Seissor

Thats a ficticious statement. You and I both know warriors stay still and it is the world around them that moves, it was the enemy mob that charged them, not the other way around.

Ok...so maybe its not warriors in hyperdrive...but maybe someday.

Really? Well I guess there are some 'patrol' groups, but there are also some tightly packed mobs who stay in one area.

populationcontrol · Jul 16, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07

if you ask me its better in the long run if you invest in max droks armor after a run there (droknars forge). from that point on armor only gets better in style but still have same armor stats, though in many aspects after beating the game this game becomes a game of status. why else would people pay over 1 mill k fow fow armor with same stats as droks, STYLE
well yeah

Healers Wisper · Jul 16, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

I feel your pain here bro. I just did the quest out of Yaks this weekend and got mobbed to death with a full henchie party. 2nd time out I did much better. Your a W/e so you have some options here. I took three Axe skills and of course rez and healing signet. But I took watchyourself and Earth armor also. (you should have this if you finished Pre-ele quests).

When you get to the large mobs order henchies back. use a longbowe to pull badies twords you and the use watch your self. Whe the mob get around you cast earth armor (it slows you down but at this point you want to focus on taking the mob and letting henches kill) I also use endure pain for the extra HP. Keep Watch yourself up anbd earth armor (I know they don't stack above +25 anymore, Watch yourself is more for henchies and earth armor is for you) Most important thing you can do is self heal!! Use signet when you can. Attacking really is your last focus (as it often is with a warrior belive it or not) You want to avoid Alesia becoming exhausted as she is your only Healer!

HawkofStorms · Jul 16, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by populationcontrol

if you ask me its better in the long run if you invest in max droks armor after a run there (droknars forge). from that point on armor only gets better in style but still have same armor stats, though in many aspects after beating the game this game becomes a game of status. why else would people pay over 1 mill k fow fow armor with same stats as droks, STYLE
well yeah

Terrible advice. Doing this with your first character will mean you won't learn anything about how to play the game properly. Play through the game in order and you'll develop into a much better player.

HKSdivision · Jul 17, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Terrible advice. Doing this with your first character will mean you won't learn anything about how to play the game properly. Play through the game in order and you'll develop into a much better player.

Exactly! I remember on my first character I got a run to Drok's because the guy was giving a test run for free so I tagged along, made it to Drok's but didn't get the armor there because I wanted to actually play the game and get myself there on my own before buying it. If you actually play the game doing every primary quest, and mission then you'll learn a lot more.

fujin · Jul 17, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKSdivision

Exactly! I remember on my first character I got a run to Drok's because the guy was giving a test run for free so I tagged along, made it to Drok's but didn't get the armor there because I wanted to actually play the game and get myself there on my own before buying it. If you actually play the game doing every primary quest, and mission then you'll learn a lot more.

That's what I did

You shouldn't really have a problem with damage until you reach the Crystal Dessert or Southern Shiverpeaks... especially if you're a Warrior.

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Originally Posted by Healers Wisper

Attacking really is your last focus (as it often is with a warrior belive it or not) You want to avoid Alesia becoming exhausted as she is your only Healer!

Sometimes they're damage dealers with skills like Eviscerate, although you get that much later in the game. Sometimes the Warrior's just a tank, controlling aggro. Why? So spells like Spiteful Spirit, Searing Flames, Mark of Rodgort, and pretty much any AoE spell becomes much more useful.

Joshie0808 · Jul 17, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22

Also, he mentioned he couldnt afford runes yet so why are you telling him to buy Drok armor? If you cant afford a 1k (give or take 300g) rune of minor vigor or a 600g Survivor insignia, then theres no way you can pay 1.5k + materials PER piece of armor at droks.. and then theres the Drok run as well.

I agree, as the stone summit Dwarves are a bit more challenging as a first time player. My first character was an Elementalist and those guys could take me out in several hits.

Also, try different combinations of henchmen, or if you have a guild, ask a guildmate to help you out. Tho.. preferably guildmates of a similar level, haha. You shouldnt let someone else do all the work for you

and that wont help you play better anyways.

Jul 16, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32	#1
jordanz Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007	Am I missing the boat on Armor? I'm a tenth level Warrior\Elementalist who just made it to Yak Territory with those pesky little dwarves. Here's the Dilemma. These dudes are popping me silly with damage and I get the feeling my armor is lame for my level. I bought some Ascalon armor (def 50) Cuirass, boots, leggings, but have a Gladiators gauntlets and helmet, with the same Armor rating. Is it a problem that I'm using a mixed set? ...Or Is it that I'm not using some of the defense runes? Can't afford those yet....

Jul 16, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00	#4
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	It is the same Al as Ascalon and even LA all are 50 for Warriors. Warrior ArmourClick it. Last edited by Age; Jul 16, 2007 at 04:09 AM // 04:09..

Jul 16, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#2
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	Your armour is not lame as most of the stone summit around there use a lower AL(armour level) rating than yourself.The armour you bought in Ascalon is perfectly fine as well as the gauntlets and helmet being AL 50.It would be best to have the same insignia on them though and get a vigor rune.You need to just hone on your skills more by switching targets tabing through them. This is what most people believe which is a cop out to getting maxed armour in Droks as it will do nothing to improve your skill lvl not just what is on your bar but how you play Warrior and what build you are using.The lvl 22 stone summit down by Droks have 38 al and those are the warriors.You just need to look at the AL rating on the armour you pick up to see what it is for the most part your armour is fine to get you even to Droks through ascending not getting a run.Playing Warrior isn't as easy as everyone says it is.In essence it is not your armour.

Jul 16, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54	#3
bart Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	i think u can buy better armor at Yak's Bend right?

Jul 16, 2007, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#5
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Yeah, you have plenty of armor. Just remember to use henchman and have a full party of six party members in Yak's. Also, keep in mind that frenzy makes you take double damage.

Jul 16, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43	#6
fujin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O Guild: Officer of United Jedi [UJ] Profession: E/	I`m not sure whether you can get these skills while you`re still there, but you could use defensive stances or armor/HP boosting skills. I personally like skills such as Watch Yourself, and Defensive Stance, although you get that skill much later in game. Bonetti`s Defense is a good stance, although the Adrenaline cost is high. You`re only 2 missions away from reaching the outpost with the skill quest.

Jul 16, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07	#7
HKSdivision Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	Your armor level is fine, I remember when I first started I bought the Gladiator's set and used to till I got to LA. You probably have "The Road to Borlis Pass" quest activated so it spawns a lot more Stone Summit too. Before you are about to engage a mob, flag your henchies back then pull only a few of the enemies so that lessens the load on you and it shouldn't be too tough. Also, if your skill bar is full of attack skills then you should change it up and take some defensive skills like "Watch Yourself!" and whatever else you have.

Jul 16, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55	#8
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	If you get "Empathy" put on you, stop attacking. (You're just beating yourself up if you don't) Use that time to do some self-healing or something. It's a good idea to only take one quest at a time from Yak's bend. You can abandon the extras in town and pick them up again later. There's more back and forth running around to do, but you're chances of sucess will be much better with the lower mob population.

Jul 16, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#9
jordanz Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007	Yep, thanks guys, you nailed it. I get to a point in Borliss pass where I am just mobbed. Still trying to learn how to rein in these henchmen....

Jul 16, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56	#10
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	use your flags (under the minimap) set the henchman back...not to far but far enough they won't aggro another group....get yourself a longbow... go in by your self and draw "shoot at" one of the groups....run back to your henchies.....clean em out....then repeat. Learning proper control of henchman/hero's isn't a necessity but it reallllly helps.

Jul 16, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#11
Lonesamurai Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cheltenham, Glos, UK Guild: Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS] Profession: R/A	also remember, your now in a six man area aswell

Jul 16, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#15
populationcontrol Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: USSR Profession: D/	if you ask me its better in the long run if you invest in max droks armor after a run there (droknars forge). from that point on armor only gets better in style but still have same armor stats, though in many aspects after beating the game this game becomes a game of status. why else would people pay over 1 mill k fow fow armor with same stats as droks, STYLE well yeah

Jul 16, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17	#16
Healers Wisper Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anaheim, CA Guild: BoMB Profession: N/	I feel your pain here bro. I just did the quest out of Yaks this weekend and got mobbed to death with a full henchie party. 2nd time out I did much better. Your a W/e so you have some options here. I took three Axe skills and of course rez and healing signet. But I took watchyourself and Earth armor also. (you should have this if you finished Pre-ele quests). When you get to the large mobs order henchies back. use a longbowe to pull badies twords you and the use watch your self. Whe the mob get around you cast earth armor (it slows you down but at this point you want to focus on taking the mob and letting henches kill) I also use endure pain for the extra HP. Keep Watch yourself up anbd earth armor (I know they don't stack above +25 anymore, Watch yourself is more for henchies and earth armor is for you) Most important thing you can do is self heal!! Use signet when you can. Attacking really is your last focus (as it often is with a warrior belive it or not) You want to avoid Alesia becoming exhausted as she is your only Healer!

Jul 17, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#20
Joshie0808 Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: Mo/	Also, he mentioned he couldnt afford runes yet so why are you telling him to buy Drok armor? If you cant afford a 1k (give or take 300g) rune of minor vigor or a 600g Survivor insignia, then theres no way you can pay 1.5k + materials PER piece of armor at droks.. and then theres the Drok run as well. I agree, as the stone summit Dwarves are a bit more challenging as a first time player. My first character was an Elementalist and those guys could take me out in several hits. Also, try different combinations of henchmen, or if you have a guild, ask a guildmate to help you out. Tho.. preferably guildmates of a similar level, haha. You shouldnt let someone else do all the work for you and that wont help you play better anyways.